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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 05:06:21 PDT
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #204


Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 14 Oct 93       Volume 11 : Issue 204

Today's Topics:

      Administrivia: Changes to file lists and abstracts
      [*] daemon-10.hqx
      [*] inside-mac-games-preview-9310.hqx
      [*] JCONV-DD ver.1.4 submission
      [*] KeMo 1.5 - ADB device millisecond timing & other useful stuff
      [*] letterman-hypmotized.hqx
      [*] Michaelz-textures.hqx
      [*] microcosm2-demo-102.hqx
      [*] PFP.1.Encryption.System
      [*] PowerScan 2.0
      [*] script-daemon-10.hqx
      (A) printing postscript files
      (Q) Macintosh LC II Memory upgrades => How?
      Any Biologists Out There?
      apple v intel (rnd 3?)
      ARA competes with the printer -- please help
      At Ease 2.0
      Batch HQX (Q)
      CD300i sharing
      cheap backup program?
      COPY Program
      Creating a FrankenMac
      DUO 210 Mouse and Keyboard Freeze Up
      Duo Dock Problems
      Error 28-Help request
      FTP Server and Fetch Problem
      GO
      Harddrive Naming
      info-mac archives?
      LaserWriter 8.1.1 phthttt!
      LaserWriter 8 problem
      Let's change the world
      localtalk intercom
      MegaGraphacs monitor
      monitor help needed, please
      MS Word / LaserWriter 8/8.0.1/8.1.1 Justifying Bug
      NEWTON WANTED
      Nisus copy protection
      Norton Encrypt
      Pastel DayMaker, file crashes
      printing postscript file to Laserwriter IINT
      Print problems with Apple IIe LC card
      PS & Tiffiles
      Quadra 800 memory problem
      Quantum Quagmire
      Radius FPD still viable?
      Radius TPD Card query
      RAM disk danger
      Recipe Software (A)
      ResEdit- newest ver?
      Solving driver-related Syquest problems
      Special Czech text accents - help!
      speech extensions
      Subject: Intercom (Q): Broadcast (A)
      Tiff file format
      Too many FTP users (A)
      Troff-to-MS Word Converters?
      Where is Folder Locker?
      World Map Wanted
      Z-modem on Unix (Q)

The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa and Gordon Watts.

The Info-Mac archives are available (by using FTP, account anonymous,
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Please send articles and binaries to [e-mail].
Send administrative mail to [e-mail].

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 10:01:28 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Liam Breck)
Subject: Administrivia: Changes to file lists and abstracts

We have made the following changes to the automatically generated file
lists and abstracts.

o The file lists help/recent-files.txt and help/all-files.txt no longer
  contain "./" before the file name.
o The file name column in these lists is properly aligned.
o all-files.txt is sorted by directory and file name, so files in
  subdirs will appear after the listing of files in the parent dir.
o Files in recent/ will not appear in either list, and
  abstract files will not appear in recent-files.txt.
o The entries in the abstracts are tagged with one of the
  following file types:
  DIRECTORY, LINK, MACBINARY, BINHEX, TEXT, SHELL_ARC, UUENCODE.
o Abstracts for all files in the archive are generated weekly
  instead of monthly.

Liam Breck
Info-Mac Reorganization Moderator

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 4:37:54 PDT
From: Peter N Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] daemon-10.hqx

Daemon is a general TCP server, implementing several simple unix
daemons, namely Finger, Whois, Ident, Daytime and NTP (time).
It runs as a background only application and answers queries to
those services.

Daemon is free for any use.

Hope its useful to someone,
   Peter. <[e-mail]>

Daemon v1.0.0 Copyright 1993 Peter N Lewis

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/net/daemon-10.hqx; 31K]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 9:24:41 PDT
From: Brian Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] inside-mac-games-preview-9310.hqx

Inside Mac Games is a complete color electronic magazine with news,
reviews, commentaries, interviews and many other features. This month's
Free Preview Edition features an exclusive sneak preview of SimCity 2000,
the ultimate city simulator from Maxis! Also in this issue, an interview with
Jason Jones, creator of Pathways Into Darkness. Plus reviews of Hell Cab,
Zone of Avoidance, Freddy Pharkas, Oh No! More Lemmings. Lastly, new
products, rumors, the IMG game poll, the latest and games release list and
much, much more.

The magazine will work on any Mac and needs not other software to be
viewed. Complete information about subscriptions is included in this free
preview edition.

For more information, contact [e-mail].

[Archived as /info-mac/per/inside-mac-games-preview-9310.hqx; 809K]

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 18:22:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Natsu Sakimura)
Subject: [*] JCONV-DD ver.1.4 submission

JCONV-DD -- a JIS<->SJIS<->EUC converter
========================================
FILE: JCONV-DD
ver.: 1.4
Type: Application
Author: Natsu Sakimura
Date: 1993.09.25
System Requirement: System 7.0 or later
Distribution: Freeware

Description:
 -----------
    JCONV-DD is a drag & drop application which performs
    the conversion of JIS, SJIS and EUC files. It
    auto-detects the encoding scheme of the file which was
    dropped.

Changes in Version 1.4
 ---------------------
1.4b1   The third release [1993.09.07].
    Disabled the progress bar for the smaller files (<5K).
    Disabled the "smooth" progress bar for the larger files.
      These are for the sake of speed.
    Added behavior control mode, i.e. preference setting for
      default behavior of JCONV-DD.
    Added a modifier key to specify New-JIS for output to
      override the user setting.

1.4b2   The Second evolution of version 1.4.
    Changed the specification so that it will truncate the
     filename of the output when it is too long, so that now
     it works even for a very long file name.

1.4b3   The Third evolution of version 1.4. [1993.09.25]
    Fixed a bug which caused a crash in System7.0.1 when
     using in Command or preference mode.

[Archived as /info-mac/text/jconv-dd-14.hqx; 34K]

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Date: 13 Oct 1993 08:11:27 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Dan Costin)
Subject: [*] KeMo 1.5 - ADB device millisecond timing & other useful stuff

CHANGES
 -------
Version 1.5
- Source code now available to registered users.  See License section.
- Added the ability to wait for more than one device at a time (waiting for
more than one device decreases the accuracy of the measurement accordingly);
see KeMoSelect() and KeMoWait()
- Added several constant definitions for selecting various combinations of ADB
devices (see KeMoSelect())
- Changed the argument type for KeMoSelect() from short integer to long
integer
(your programs must be recompiled with the new KeMo.h or KeMo.p)
- Added the ability to distinguish between two mouse buttons (tested on
PowerBook trackballs only).  See KeMoWait().
- Added the function KeMoDeviceType() to manually set the device types
(keyboard or mouse) when KeMo fails to appropriately categorize a device.
- Added access to two data arrays that contain information about available ADB
devices (see the bottom of KeMo.h and KeMo.p)
- Fixed Quadra and PowerBook incompatibilities (incompatibilities fixed in
KeMoInit() and KeMoSync())

For changes in previous versions (1.03 and earlier) see README file.

INTRODUCTION
 ------------
This package is essentially a set of functions to help writing reaction time
experiments on the Mac, the KeMo Reaction Timing Utilities.  Functionality
currently consists of the following:
- a timer with 20 microsecond resolution
- polling functions for ADB devices, such as keyboards and mice, with +/-1.4
to
+/-2.1 msec accuracy, depending on your Mac (as opposed to the +/- 8 to +/-16
msec accuracy that you get with "normal" Toolbox functions like GetKeys)
- a screen refresh synchronization function for all Macs
- functions that hide and show the menu bar
- a function to make all other applications quit (System 7 required)

Before I get too many comments like "the Mac is not a real-time machine" let
me
put in my disclaimer: this software-only approach does not guarantee the
accuracy claimed above in all conditions.  Various factors like disk access
and
network activity can cause loss of accuracy.  But this lack of accuracy can be
avoided with careful programming and by using Macs that are not doing certain
other things and running other programs at the same time they are doing
reaction timing.  See "Accuracy Issues" in the Users' Guide for more
discussion
of this.

These routines are packaged in a library file which can be incorporated into
your program, together with header files for C and Pascal.  Additionally, a
sample program that exercises all of the functions is included with source
code
in C.

KeMo's ADB (Apple Desktop Bus) polling functions only work on Macs with
ADB's.
These include all Macs sold by Apple after the Mac Plus.  In addition, all
functions require System Version 6.0.5 or later.  If using Think Pascal, you
must use Think Pascal version 3.0 or later.

The KeMo set of functions is distributed as "Old World Order/Recession-ware":
there is a shareware registration fee of $20 unless you can't afford it, or
can't get U.S. dollars.  You may not use KeMo to write commercial or shareware
programs without prior permission.  See the license terms in the Users' Guide
for more details.

Source code is available for free to registered users ($10 shipping/handling
if
you need me to send you stuff by physical mail, prepaid).

You may contact Dan Costin, the author, at [e-mail] or
[e-mail], or P.O. Box 13214, La Jolla, CA  92039-3214.   Support is
on a time-available basis.

-Dan Costin

KeMo Reaction Time Utilities Copyright 1992,1993 Dan Costin

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/kemo-15.hqx; 155K]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 00:37:13 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Jason Snell)
Subject: [*] letterman-hypmotized.hqx

David Letterman is "Hypmotized!" in this QuickTime movie taken from a
mid-80s episode of "Late Night With David Letterman."

Stuffed and binhexed.

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/qt/i-been-hypmotized.hqx; 501K]

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1993 21:02:39 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Eilers <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Michaelz-textures.hqx

This is a freeware collection of desktop patterns intended for use with
Texture Installer 2.1 (Avernus Software.)

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/grf/michaels-textures.hqx; 766K]

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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 93 20:59:31 EDT
From: [e-mail] (David Henry)
Subject: [*] microcosm2-demo-102.hqx

It's the Microcosm II demo!

Adventure into the microscopic world of viruses and DNA! Maneuver around the
treacherous mazes of the Microcosm, shooting  DNA-filled pills at the viruses
that are spawning and mutating. Pick up computer chips to add functions to
add functions to your robot while other robots roam the maze, changing its
structure. The powerful built-in level editor lets you create your own
mazes, and network players can communicate with each other.

This is a demo version of Microcosm II which allows you to play levels 1 & 2.
Some features have been disabled.

The Microcosm II demo requires at least a Macintosh Plus running system
software version 6.0.7 or later. System 7 is recommended. It will work in
color
or monochrome. Sound Manager 3.0 is recommended, though not required.

The real version of Microcosm II is marketed by SoftStream International, and
is available at fine software resellers such as MacWarehouse.

--
Dave Henry                         [e-mail], [e-mail]
Damn Good Software                                           [phone]

[Archived as /info-mac/game/com/microcosm-ii-demo.hqx; 697K]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 11:43:25 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Benjamin A. Vogler)
Subject: [*] PFP.1.Encryption.System

Privacy for Pals is a very useful and powerful encryption system that allows
the user to enter a password before encrypting his/her message, allowing the
message to be decyphered only by that password.  ShareWare $5 fee.

[Archived as /info-mac/cmp/privacy-for-pals.hqx; 89K]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 15:50:07 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] PowerScan 2.0

Dear Netters,

This is version 2.0 of my shareware application PowerScan. It is used to scan
disks and can save, print, filter, find duplicate files and more. This version
is a complete rewrite from scratch with *many* new features:

* Support for Apple's Thread Manager! Yes, PowerScan will now run several
  scan and find duplicates operations concurrently, even when in background.
  Thread Manager is not included in the archive so you'll have to download
  it separately from e.g. ftp.apple.com. Highly recommended!

* Greatly improved filtering. In addition to the type and creator filters
  available in version 1.0, this version also handles filename, size,
  creation and modification dates in any combination. Filter components can
  be grouped.

* Support for external plug-in modules. Filters can be installed just by
  dropping them in a folder. Also supports external pre-processors such
  as the included Compact Pro archive scanner. A StuffIt preprocessor is
  in the works.

* All new user interface. Select font and size for display and printing,
  resizable columns, new floating palette where most settings can be
  accessed.

* Saving and printing. PowerScan can now save and open directory listings.
  Print options include margins, print font and header. On-screen print
  preview is included.

* Many small improvements. Send select/open Apple Events to the Finder,
  movable dialog boxes, better Search function, apply filter after
  scanning...

PowerScan 2.0 requires System 7 or later. It is shareware $10. Included in
the package is a user's manual and parts of the programmer's documentation
(i.e. how to write a pre-processor; I will upload the filter docs when they
are finished).


 Jonas Wallden -- Internet: [e-mail] -- AppleLink: sw1369

[Archived as /info-mac/disk/power-scan-20.hqx; 367K]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 4:37:47 PDT
From: Peter N Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] script-daemon-10.hqx

Script Daemon allows you to telnet to your Mac and enter AppleScript
commands.  Only the owner can log in (using the Owner name&password).
How useful this is depends very much on what AppleScript capable
programs you have, but its pretty clear that there will be more of
them as time goes on.  It requires System 7, MacTCP 1.1 and AppleScript.

Script Daemon is free for any use.

Hope its useful to someone,
   Peter. <[e-mail]>

Script Daemon v1.0.0 Copyright 1993 Peter N Lewis

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/net/script-daemon-10.hqx; 57K]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 13:50:36 -0600 (CST)
From: BILL SIMPSON <[e-mail]>
Subject: (A) printing postscript files

I found the following at the Univ of Michigan site.  They both did
the trick!
1. dropps for printing postscript.  Just drag and drop!
2. maccompress for converting to/from .Z format

Both are in /utilities.

Bill Simpson

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Date: 13 Oct 93 15:06:16-0400
From: /PN=JOHN.WITHERS/O=IRS/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com
Subject: (Q) Macintosh LC II Memory upgrades => How?

Hello all.

I hope this is not a FAQ, but I couldn't find the answer in my
IM Digest archives.

I need, I think, to upgrade the memory on a Mac LC II with
4MB currently installed.  I understand the rules about types,
sizes, kinds, varieties, speeds, etc for the SIMMS.  What I
need to know is:  with PC/Compatible SIMMS work in the system.
The reason I ask is that the latter is 20% cheaper locally than
the best mail order Mac memory place I have found.

Any thoughts from the net gurus?

John Withers

(If you can't get me at the sprint.com return address above, try
 <[e-mail]>.  Maybe I have the Name Service
 ironed out by then.)


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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 16:04 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Any Biologists Out There?

I'm seeking advice about AUTHORING SOFTWARE for the Mac. I plan to deveop
programs for the Mac to be used by undergraduates in Biology. I have
worked with ToolBook on the PC, but am new to the wonderful world of the
Mac.

The software must be able to access videodisks and photoCDs.

Is Hypercard the program of choice? (Macromedia Director is beyond
my budget.) I've also heard good things about HyperStudio for the Mac. Please
advise!

Gratefully,

Patricia Grove ([e-mail])
College of Mount St. Vincent, Bronx, NY

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 13:39:09 -0400
From: Robert Scott Lillard <[e-mail]>
Subject: apple v intel (rnd 3?)

for all you cry babies   :-)    that just couldn't bare intel's
girlie little ad (i enjoy not being pc) in a "Mac Mag" (how dare
they!!!) open PC Mag to page 129-30 (Oct 26 iss) and there in all
its glory is an ad for the latests Macs (Cent 660AV & Quad 840AV)
 .... as if the Newton on the front page of the Oct 12 iss wasn't
enough!
beers,
scott
ps if i hear the phrase 'intel inside' on more time ....
'bang-zoom'
   as always, flames welcomed / encouraged

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 15:14:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Wyant <[e-mail]>
Subject: ARA competes with the printer -- please help

Hello all --

I'm hoping someone in Info-Mac land can help me, or rather my neighbor.
He bought a Powerbook 145, and an internal modem, along with a Stylewriter II
printer.  AppleTalk Remote Access was installed on his Powerbook, to allow
him to call his office from home and check his work.  At home, he's writing a
novel, and wants to be able to print out his work to the StyleWriter..
Problem is that he cannot have both AppleTalk turned on, and be able to
print.  I've explained the Chooser to him, but he can't quite get through the
whole routine of turning ApppleTalk off, then back on, re-booting, etc.
Besides, I don't think he should have to. Is there an easier way, that I
didn't
see
when I RTFM?  Thanks to anyone who knows, and takes the time to answer.

Scott Wyant
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 16:34 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: At Ease 2.0

Could somebody tell me what has changed between At Ease 1.0 and At Ease 2.0?
Thanks for the help!

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem1 (bitnet)
[e-mail] (internet)

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 16:06:39 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Alan Piszcz)
Subject: Batch HQX (Q)

Does anyone know of an application which can perform
encoding to .hqx format by drag and drop in batch mode?

Thanks.

Basically the inverse of DeHQX.


# Al_Piszcz Tel: [phone] Fax: [phone]


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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 06:26:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Vellek <[e-mail]>
Subject: CD300i sharing

Don't know if this will help or not, but have you tried the utility
UnMountIt? It was contained in a disk image on ftp.apple.com, and I'll try
and figure out the name, but it also may be here somewhere - help people...

Mark Vellek
([e-mail])
Columbia, MO

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 12:06:00 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: cheap backup program?

yo, cyperspacers!

does anyone know of an inexpensive baackup program? preferably shareware, but
<$
+ 50 comercialWare is OK.

all that i need is for it to do a backup of specific folders onto multiple
+ floppies. it doesn't even have to do incrimental backups. also if anyone
+ knows how to do backups in StuffIt, tell me. you can't segment an archive
+ untill you save it as one big chunk, and you can't expand it untill you
+ desegment it, into a big chunk.

TIA for any help

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 11:06:26 -0600 (MDT)
From: "DIRECTOR OF COMPUTING RESOURCES, DPMA" <[e-mail]>
Subject: COPY Program

Does ANYONE know of a FILE copy program to copy files from disk to disk?

We are running AtEase 2.0 and need one ASAP.  Please respond directly
to the following address.  Thank You.

[e-mail]


Thank You!!!!!

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 07:13:01 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Glenn Fink)
Subject: Creating a FrankenMac

Dear Netfolk:
At work we've been trying to beg borrow or steal a Macintosh for over
a year now. At long last it looks like we might be able to get *most*
of one. Another department has an old II hanging around that they've
been using for spare parts. It has a replaced logic board, no floppy
drive, no memory, and no monitor. We've also got a Cogent workstation
(all these are good for is spare parts!) that we want to use to patch
up the Mac. We know that Cogents are Nubus based so the monitor and
ethernet cards are compatible. What we want to find out is if we can
use the memory and the floppy drive. The floppy drive is an 800K drive
from Sony, model MP-F53W-11F with a *34* pin cable. Can this be adapted
to work with the Mac? The SIMMs are 30 pin, 9 chip modules that look
about the right size. Each chip has the following on the front of it:

___ 81C1000-12
 F
___ 8825 C06
Japan
    PJ

The "F" thing looks like a manufacturer's logo but I don't recognize it
. Can you help us put together a FRANKENSTEIN Mac? Any help or pointers wo\
would be helpful. BTW, I have Larry Pina's old book but he is primarily
concerned with using *authorized* parts, I couldn't find what I was looking
for there.

Thank you for your help,
Glenn Fink  ([e-mail]) and
Mike Nowak  ([e-mail])

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Date: 13 Oct 93 10:38:00 CDT
From: Butch Kemper              <[e-mail]>
Subject: DUO 210 Mouse and Keyboard Freeze Up

There was a question raised by Johan Solve <[e-mail]>
about his DUO experiencing occasional mouse/keyboard freeze-ups.  I
have also had the same problem and it happens only when the DUO is
in the Dock.

I called Apple this morning, 800-767-2775, and asked about the problem.
The person on the phone was most helpful and told me it was a known
problem.  It has to do with the new "Apple Destop Bus mouse II" (the
round smooth mouse) which came with the DUO Dock.

The Support person said he expected a software correction would be
available at the end of October.  It will be a new version of the
System Enabler 201.  He said it would be on AppleLink and I assume that
also means FTP.Apple.Com.

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 14:38:53 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Richard Kline)
Subject: Duo Dock Problems

Johan,

I am experencing the exact same problems.  Apple has admitted to me that
there is a problem, but they have no fix or even a date!  We need to bring
this to the public so Apple starts to feel a little presure on the issue.


Rich Kline
Synopsys

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 93 09:51:49 +0900
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Error 28-Help request

 Ilans wrote on 11 Oct 93

> Error 28 when printing [please help]

> When I try to print on my ImageWriter, some >applications quit suddenly,
>leaving the message box "application unknown quit... error 28"

>Error 28 is "stack has moved into application heap".  >There is no memory
>shortage (8MB all for the single application) I tried >replacing the
>Imagewriter driver, but to no avail. Excel 4 prints 1 >page at a time - but
>quits on more then 1 page, before printing anything. >BBdit did print this
>page. Some other applications quit immediatly. I >tried removing all
>extensions but this does not change anything. Check >for Viruses - none
>found. Norton Utils revealed no problems.

 I Have the same problem with exactly the same symptoms.
Since my configuration is: LC III 20/160 with the international
version of system 7.1 with the Arabic extensions/Scripts/Fonts
which I received from Nisus company with the complete Flag version
of Nisus.

  Now, trying to print any document from any application on Image
Writter II give the error message $BR (J28$BS (Jwith the closing of the
appl.

The only way to solve this problem is to take out the $BRW(Jorld Script I $BR
(Jfrom the extension folder of the system which is annoying.

I aksed Apple Japan and Nisus $BRt(Jhe technical support$BS,(J but with no
help!
they answered that I have to increase the memory allocation of the program
I used for printing, because working with scripts need more memory!!
but even this does not work.

 Could it be The $BRp(JetLock$BS (Jwhich I received with Nisus as a Software
protection the reason..I don$BUt(J know.

 I am lost also on this one like you, I do not plan to buy another new
printer as I am satisfied with my Image Writer II for my personal research
works. Any help?

Magdi El Sersi
Cardiovascular Department
Tsukuba University, Japan
E-mail: [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 17:04:57 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FTP Server and Fetch Problem

We set up a DOS based FTP server using the Clarkson TelBin application
and it seems that Fetch has a bit of a problem with it.  Fetch
is unable to show any of the directories, it can only show files.

We've exchanged e-mails with Dartmouth (Fetch's home) about this
and they have suggested that we look for other FTP server packages
other than the Clarkson one we're using (PC Resident FTP 2.2TN/TC-D server.)
Apparently, this version can not deal with the NLST command.

I wonder if any netters are operating DOS based FTP servers that work
properly with Fetch?  If so, I would like to know what server package
you are using.

I might add that other DOS clients and Unix clients do not have trouble
accessing the FTP server and seeing the directories.  The problem
seems to be unique to Fetch.

Jeffrey Fritz
West Virginia University
[e-mail]

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Date: 13 Oct 93 13:57 GMT
From: [e-mail] (U of Wisconsin, P Chane,STU)
Subject: GO

I am looking for a Macintosh or Windows implementation of the game of GO.


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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 06:28:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark Vellek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Harddrive Naming

I think you've run into the mysterious "autolock" that some users have
reported. There is a utility called UnlockFolder that should do the trick.

Mark Vellek
([e-mail])
Columbia, MO

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 10:37:29 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: info-mac archives?

sorry if this is a faq, but how can i get archives of the info-mac list? i
just
+ accidentally deleted all my old files ( i don't have norton or other un-
+ trashing utilities).

[Try /ifno-mac/per/im/*.txt -Gordon]

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 12:48:17 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Michael Jensen)
Subject: LaserWriter 8.1.1 phthttt!

Anyone not being able to print at all from the new print driver?
I just installed it last night, and the only thing I get from my LW 630 Pro
is "VMerror: Offending Command."
I'm running system 7.1.1 (tuned) on a IIvx, over a localtalk network.
Programs that I'm sure don't work are MS Word 5.1a, Draw II, MS Excel 4.0.
I haven't tried anything else.  I guess I'll just have to reset my date to
September and re-install 8.0.

Michael Jensen
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 09:13:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Michael A. McGuire" <[e-mail]>
Subject: LaserWriter 8 problem

I offer this to pay back a little of what I have taken from the net.

I installed LaserWriter 8 (v. 8.1.1). All went well for a few days until
while attaching some test equipment I had a crash. On rebooting a could not
print or select Page Setup without geting an Error -39. I could use other
printer drivers (8.0, ImageWriter, etc.) but not LaserWriter 8. It also did
not matter what printer I was going to.

I said "OK, I will just reinstall the beast." NOT! Same results. Then my
puzzler really got sore. I do a lot of consulting and I had a client in with
infected disks just before which I cleaned up using Disinfectant (I
genuflect toward Northwestern). I knew I could not get infected but I said
"What the heck lets check it out." I was not infected but Disinfectant told
be that the LaserWriter 8 Prefs file was damaged!! I trashed it, re-selected
LaserWriter 8 and all was well.

The moral to this story is if you get a -39 error trying to use LaserWriter
8 or when selecting Page Setup try throwing away your LaserWriter 8 Prefs
file.


Michael A. McGuire,
UTCC - User Services
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 17:12
From: [e-mail] (Ron Webster)
Subject: Let's change the world

Request to all Mac users:

     I am in the process of challenging (on legal grounds) various
copy-protection schemes employed by the software industry.  I need a
couple of things from the Mac user community.

     1.  I would appreciate responses from those of you who night be
     willing to assist me in this endeavor.  I'm talking about
     possibly writing a few brief letters to selected companies--that
     sort of thing (nothing big, and no major commitment of time or
     effort).  I'm not presently asking for a commitment or for any
     action--I just want to obtain a list of persons who would be
     willing to be contacted by me in this regard at a later time
     (with the understanding that you might then opt not to
     participate).

     2.  I also need to hear from you regarding any negative or trying
     experiences (past or present) you have had with copy-protected
     software.  Please be as specific as possible regarding details
     (Mac configuration; software publisher, product, and version;
     description of the problem and actions taken in response; etc.).

     I'm not sure what cooperation I'm going to receive in the legal
community.  My plan is to try to promote this campaign via consumer
protection channels.  This may be an opportunity for the Mac community to
have a big impact with only a little effort, so I hope you all will be
supportive.

Ron Webster ([e-mail])
=============

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 10:36:15 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: localtalk intercom

try Communicator, a good shreware program. i think it is
/infomac/comm/communicator

good luck!

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 14:58:45 CDT
From: Mike Holden <[e-mail]>
Subject: MegaGraphacs monitor

I have a Rival MegaGraphics 19" b&w monitor connected to an SE/30
that works great running System 6.0.x but not with System 7.x.x.
The most obvious and troublesome problem occurs when using any
graphics program.  When a line is drawn many extra pixels appear
along the entire length of the line on both sides.  Any help will be
greatly appreciated; the company has apparently gone out of
business.  Thanks.

Mike Holden
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 13:33:29 EDT
From: Ross Scaife <[e-mail]>
Subject: monitor help needed, please

I can't get my Magnavox Professional Mac Color monitor (model 9cm 080)
to work with my Mac IIsi, though I've established that both
components work fine.  Tech help at Maganvox et al tell me there
should be no problem.  The cable ends in a 15 pin plug; could some
of its pins be misdirected?  Did some earlier IIsi's not get
the same video capabilities as later versions?  Thanks,
Ross ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 13 Oct 93 10:04 EST
From: CLARK RUSSELL S              <[e-mail]>
Subject: MS Word / LaserWriter 8/8.0.1/8.1.1 Justifying Bug


Date: 13-OCT-1993 09:55
From: Russ Clark
Sender: CLARKRS
Subject: MS Word / LaserWriter 8/8.0.1/8.1.1 Justifying Bug
To: [e-mail]@smtp@tcpgateway
 -------
Here's something that used to be a problem with Word, was fixed, and now has
cropped up again:

Try formatting a document in New Century Schoolbook, 8 pt., justified,
Fractional Widths On (2-column, but I don't think that matters).

Now look closely at the alignment on the right--it's noticeably ragged!
(though not as much as flush left)

Using Word 5.1a, System 7.1, Adobe Type Manager 3.6 with the Adobe screen and
outline fonts, LaserWriter Pro 630, and any of the version 8 LaserWriter
drivers.

With LaserWriter 7.2, the alignment is acceptable.

(When I complained about this to Microsoft last time it happened with Word 4,
they recommended using PageMaker....)

A note on the lingo: A typesetting expert taught me never to say
"right justified."  The correct term is just "justified," meaning evenly
spaced text with right AND left margins aligned.

Russ Clark
[e-mail]

 -------

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Date: 13 Oct 93 19:24 GMT
From: [e-mail] (U of Wisconsin, P Chane,STU)
Subject: NEWTON WANTED

I am looking for an exact screen shot of a Newton MessagePad.  Or an excellent
photo of one taken from above it, looking down.



------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 15:09:56 +0100
From: Charles Roth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Nisus copy protection

Jamie,

    I have Nisus 3.4 Limited Flag edition and it is NOT copy
protected. I missed the earlier parts of this discussion but if you
only need european fonts, it does evrything - I think.

Charlie Roth

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 17:19:09 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Norton Encrypt

Well, my boss goofed up.  Using Norton Encrypt, he mistyped his usual
password.  Is there any way to find what was the password he typed or
to unencrypt the file?

Please respond directly to me ([e-mail]).

Thanks,

    Jean-Luc (who hopes for a bigger paycheck)   :-)

------------------------------

Date: 13 Oct 1993 14:52:15 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Tom Tamlyn)
Subject: Pastel DayMaker, file crashes

Try 212/941-7500 for Pastel Development.

The current version of DayMaker is 2.0.3. A free updater for 2.* versions
is available (dunno if it's on info-mac, though).

A Pastel support person told me a while back that files created with
versions prior to 2.0.3 could become corrupted if they have recurring events.

TTT

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 09:16:50 -0600 (CST)
From: BILL SIMPSON <[e-mail]>
Subject: printing postscript file to Laserwriter IINT

I would like to print postscript files to my Laserwriter IINT.
The files are typically created on a unix system (I grab via ftp--
things like research papers).  Is there a way to do it?  Preferably with
software available at sumex-aim?  Related question: is there a utility
to decompress .Z files?

Thanks for any help.

Bill Simpson
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 10:05 +0000 (GMT)
From: Fabio Viviani <[e-mail]>
Subject: Print problems with Apple IIe LC card

Hello,
I' m trying to print in landscape mode, or using scaling under ProDOS,
with a StyleWriter II and an LC II with the Apple //e emulation card.
All what I get is to print in landscape or make scaling when printing
the Apple //e screen from the "file" menu of the Apple IIe startup
application.
Is it possible? and how?
I do not want to add another printer on the modem port to make all the
printouts I need.
Please reply to me since I'm not a member of the list.
Thanks in advance.

Fabio Viviani

CSELT - Turin, Italy
([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 15:58:37 CDT
From: MAcka <[e-mail]>
Subject: PS & Tiffiles

Ok, I have solved half of my problem.  The file that I d/l from archie
is a tif file.  I can place it in Ragemaker (pagemaker), but I still
can'y open it in Photoshop, what do I do?

Mack

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 17:38 GMT
From: John Armstrong <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra 800 memory problem

I have a Quadra 800 with 24Mb memory and a 500Mb hard disk, running
System 7.1.1.  When I look at the memory usage I find that System
Software uses about 20Mb.  (No wonder some of our applications run out
of memory!)  On our LCII running 7.0.1 the system software uses 2.2Mb.

Restarting the Quadra without extensions reduces the usage to around
18.5 Mb.  I have reformatted the disk with Apple HD SC Setup and reduced
the Macintosh partition to 50%, then reinstalled the operating system
from the installation disks.  System software is still using 18.5 Mb.

(I don't know if this is relevant, but we have disk cache at 768Kb,
VM on, 32-bit addressing off and RAM disk off.)

Please can anyone throw any light on why the Quadra's system software
is using 10 times as much memory as the LCII and what I do about it?

John Armstrong
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 10:41:21 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Ahrens)
Subject: Quantum Quagmire

it seems that someone formtted the HD using LaCie's SilverLining. Just
+ initialize it again using Apple's HD SC Setup. Be sure that you are ussing
+ the newest version (the one that comes with the Software Utilities Update)

--
My opinions are mine only and tentative, pending further data
Matthew Ahrens                      [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 16:46:21 CDT
From: "Eric Enwall"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Radius FPD still viable?

We have some Radius FPDs (BW) still running off MacPlus computers. Is there a
sensible method of using these screens on Macs with built in video?

The same question exists for Mirror two page displays running off SEs with
Mirror video boards.

Please reply by e-mail, I'll summarize if methods exist.

Eric Enwall   Chem Dept   Univ of Oklahoma
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 11 Oct 93 17:30:18 BST
From: Richard Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Radius TPD Card query

Hi, Folks;

More problems.

(Though not as bad as I've just spent four hours sorting out on my cx -
wouldn't
boot from HD etc, wouldn't boot from S7.1 Install disk, would boot from S7.1
System Tools, but then I couldn't find anything wrong with the HD. Reformatted
the HD, couldn't install the system from Install floppy, copied the system
from
the Disk Tools disk, rebooted from the HD, installed new system from Install
set
of floppies, re-installed all my inits and cdevs etc, phew! Macs - eh!!)

But to business, I've got a Radius TPD-IIM card from a machine I bought - no
screen to go with it.

1) This card has a RAMDAC chip on it - but when I connected it up to a Radius
TPD screen, it was only B/W - is this right, if so what's the RAMDAC for?

2) Is there two varieties of Radius TPD? i.e. B/W or Greyscale.

3) How does the Radius card know what screen it's connected to, or indeed, if
there's one there at all? It does know these things - if there's no screen
connected, the card doesn't even show up in the Monitors cdev.

Thanks,

Richard Smith
Hardware & Systems Executive
NorthEast Macintosh User Group - UK

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 14:18:59 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Mike Basham)
Subject: RAM disk danger

I had a very interesting experience working with a user that I thought
might benefit the Info-Mac community.

This guy wanted to re-partition his hard disk on a Quadra 950. He
discovered that he couldn't do it without booting to another disk, so he
configured a RAM disk with the system and Apple HD SC Setup. He booted to
the RAM disk and re-partitioned the hard disk.

As you would expect, he ran into problems with this un-orthodox procedure.
By the time he called me, his machine wouldn't boot and was showing a disk
icon with a question mark. This didn't surprise me, but what _did_ surprise
me was that he couldn't boot even from a floppy.

As we all know, if you boot from a floppy with a valid system folder, the
Mac will use it instead of the hard disk. In this case, however, the badly
corrupted hard disk was hanging up the startup process before it got to the
floppy.

No problem, I thought, because there is a special startup key sequence to
get the Mac to ignore the hard disk altogether. This sequence is
Command-Option-Shift-Delete. (The real reason to do this is to force a boot
from a device that is not a floppy, like a CD ROM) When he tried this, the
Mac got through the flashing disk icon, but then displayed a sad Mac. It
never appeared to read the floppy disk (he was trying to boot from a
confirmed disk tools disk).

To make a long story short, on advice from a colleague of mine, I advised
the guy to physically disconnect his hard disk and try to boot. This
worked, but only when he held down Command-Option-Shift-Delete. When he
finally booted to disk tools he was surprised to find that the RAM disk was
still there. Apparently, the presence of the RAM disk was screwing up the
boot-up process. He got rid of the RAM disk, shut the computer down,
plugged in the hard drive, and was finally able to boot.

All this goes to show that RAM disks can be dangerous. I tried setting up a
RAM disk at one point when I had a Quadra 700 with 68 megs of RAM, but I
stopped using it because my Mac would crash and burn every five minutes. Is
something about Apple's System 7 RAM disk seriously buggy? Don't know, but
I'll avoid them.

Mike Basham ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 10:08:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Allison Greene <[e-mail]>
Subject: Recipe Software (A)

Fri, 8 Oct 93 Byron.Mayes wrote:

> Anyone know of any others (Commercial or Shareware/Freeware)?  I'm looking
for
> stand-alone applications -- not HyoerCard stacks or Filemaker apps -- which
> support automatic ingredient proportion conversion (i.e., I can alter a
recipe
> for 4 to serve 7 with no problem), measurement conversion (cups to ml, tsps
to
> tblsps, etc.), and adding of one's own recipes (preferably as a separate
> file).  Preferred is the ability to output a recipe to a text file (though I
> may find a reason to use/pay for Print2PICT if the program doesn't have this
> option) and searching by ingredient.  A PC couterpart would be nice, too.
> Naturally, it must print recipes and, of course, run on a Macintosh (I'm
> putting an SE in my kitchen once I find my dream application!).

    I bought a copy of Mangia! last summer at the MacWorld Expo in Boston.
    You'll be happy to know that Mangia! does all of the above.  In
    addition, it will help you keep track of what's in your pantry And
    print you a shopping list, minus the items you already have in your
    pantry.You can even plan and print menus!  And no, you don't need
    Hypercard or anything else, except your Mac.  I *love* Mangia!!

    -Allison

------------------------------

Date: 14 Oct 93 01:51:36 GMT
From: [e-mail] (David Shaw)
Subject: ResEdit- newest ver?

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>Could someone please tell me which version of ResEdit is the most recent?

The latest version is still 2.1.1.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 12:17:26 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Solving driver-related Syquest problems

> >I have a Mass Microsystems DataPak that uses Syquest 44MB disks. Yesterday
I
> >took a new, formatted disk to a remote site that had a syquest drive (not a
> >Mass Microsystems). The disk came up as not formatted. So, we decided to
format
> >the disk. When I got back to the office this morning I discovered that the
disk
> >formatted in the Syquest Drive  was unreadable in the Mass Microsystems
drive.
> >Any ideas?
> >
>
> This isn't at all an uncommon situation. In order to ensure that the
> cartridges are interchangeable, you have to make sure that the two drives
> have compatible drivers and that the formatting is done with compatible
> drivers.
>
Sorry for the delay in answering.

This problem is caused by the 1st Syquest's driver being loaded into
memory. When the Syquest formatted with different software is inserted,
it can't mount because the wrong driver is in memory. You can override
this by mounting with a utility which formats Syquests and hard drives
such as Silverlining, APS Utilities, etc. More efficient for this, however,
is SCSI Probe which is a cdev that can be used for mounting. Also, it can
be configured to purge the driver when a syquest is ejected. SCSI Probe
is almost certainly in the Sumex archives and the mirrors.-Pete Tamas
[e-mail] or TempleVM.bitnet

------------------------------

Date: 13 Oct 1993 17:28:57 -0600 (MDT)
From: The Boydster <[e-mail]>
Subject: Special Czech text accents - help!

Greetings all...

A colleague has been trying to get the "Hachek" accent, used in writing
the Czech language, using key caps on the Mac. The hachek is a little "v"
that sits above the r, s, z, c, and e (and maybe others - ask him).

There is in fact a little "v" if you hit opt-shift-t, but we can't seem to
figure out how to get it _above_ a letter - it seems to want to be by itself.

He is an internet neophyte, so I told him I'd forward the question.

Please respond to him directly - I made him promise to summarize to the
list.

He is: Damien Schwartz,
       EMail: [e-mail]
(Damien is also looking for Czech-speaking folks who want to correspond
via email. Drop him a line!)


Thanks in advance,
Ritchie Boyd       University of Wyoming - Center for Teaching Excellence
Internet: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 14 Oct 93 01:50:50 GMT
From: [e-mail] (David Shaw)
Subject: speech extensions

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

>   Does anyone know the difference between the macintalk-pro.hqx and
>speech-manager.hqx in the /software/mac/sys.soft/speech directory at
>ftp.apple.com, besides the difference in size?  How many more
>improvements does macintalk-pro have over speech-manager?
>   Any help would be appreciated.

SpeechManager is the init that allows your mac to speak and read test files.
Macintalk Pro (also called Plaintalk) is a smarter "brain" for the speech
capability, and it includes higher-quality voices than SpeechManager.  All
the same, you need SpeechManager even if you get Macintalk Pro.  It will not
operate by itself.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 06:35:18 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Darrah Chavey)
Subject: Subject: Intercom (Q): Broadcast (A)

[e-mail] (steve jaffe) replied:
>> (Steven Hodas) wrote:
>>============
>>Are there any sharweare or low-cost commercial programs that let you use
>>a LocalTalk netowrk as an intercom? In other words, instead of shouting
>>>From one room to the other I'd like to send a sound file in some way that
>>more interactive than recording it, dragging it, waiting for the
>>recipient to open it, having them record a response, etc.
>
>It's called Broadcast - I haven't checked, but it's probably available at
>sumex-aim.

I don't think so. The programs announce and broadcast both send text
messages. Quoting from UMich:

announce1.0 8/16/92
   Application and extension that performs the same thing as
   Broadcast 2.0.  Allows across-the-net (AppleTalk) announcement
   messages that do not interrupt the recipients
   or their work. System 7 friendly.

A program that may have a better chance of doing what Steve wants is:

communicator2.0   8/3/92
   Sends sounds (which you can record with your microphone) or
   text to another, listening-in-the-background Macintosh on
   your AppleTalk network.

But the description only implies that it sends to a single machine.

--Darrah Chavey            Department of Math & Computer Science
  [e-mail]        Beloit College; 700 College St; Beloit, Wisc.

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 13:20:45 CDT
From: Mack Willingham <[e-mail]>
Subject: Tiff file format

Hello, there is a mirror of some site on archie.au and wuarchive called
architecture that has some textures in tif format that I have been
trying to d/l, but PS won't open it.  I have tried binary, ascii,
macbinary, with the same result.  Can anyone tell me what I am doing
wrong?  Where is the real site located?

Mack

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 18:45:05 PDT
From: [e-mail] (W. Rowe)
Subject: Too many FTP users (A)

> As a long-time "user" of the Info-Mac FTP archives, I have to admit that
> I have been frequently turned-away lately upon receiving the reply...

I have found both the Sumex and Umich archives to be widely mirrored at
other sites. The easiest alternative for me is the wuarchive.wustl.edu site,
but I know there are many others about. In order to survive in the ever
increasing competitive world of ftp, we as the fittest must use our smarts
to stay ahead of the competition :) Besides, theoretically this will spread
out all the ftp traffic to a more manageable level...for a while. Damn that
Malthus.

------------------------------

Date: 13 Oct 93 10:06 EST
From: CLARK RUSSELL S              <[e-mail]>
Subject: Troff-to-MS Word Converters?


Date: 13-OCT-1993 09:57
From: Russ Clark
Sender: CLARKRS
Subject: Troff-to-MS Word Converters?
To: [e-mail]@smtp@tcpgateway
 -------
I remember a while back seeing info on a troff-to-MS Word converter for the
Mac, called AutoTag, I think.

At the time I don't think it worked with tbl tables or supported Word styles--
but those were promised features.

Does anyone know of this or anything else that does the job?  (And the
publisher's name and number.)  It should support mm troff macros at
least.

Thanks,

Russ Clark
[e-mail]

 -------

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 16:21 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Where is Folder Locker?

Does anyone know if the folder locking utility, "Folder Locker," is still
available?  There used to be a demo version at sumex and umich, but I haven't
been able to locate it at either site.  If it's still around, I'd like to give
it a try; I need something relatively inexpensive (at least as compared to
FolderBolt) for keeping young 5-year-old fingers out of some of Daddy's
computer files.  Thanks for the help!

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem1 (bitnet)
[e-mail] (internet)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 15:52:57 -0500
From: [e-mail] (John Buss)
Subject: World Map Wanted

Hi folks,
    I need a good sized world map.  It need not be very detailed but it
must be clear and suitable for tracing into Adobe Illustrator.  The clip
art version is too small and too coarse.  GIF, PICT or similar would be
great.  Any leads?
TIA,
bussy

bussy                                Iwonder, therefore I might be.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 93 19:34:30 +0100
From: "J. Rossi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Z-modem on Unix (Q)

Hello,

After downloading zmodem-part...-unix.shar from the comm directory, I compiled
it following the part relating to sysvr3 in the Makefile. No problem, nice
compilation.

However, when I tried to transfer a file to test whether it was working, no
luck. The weird thing though is that ZTerm recognizes a z-modem transfer when
I
initiate a 'sz ...' in Irix, and so does Irix when ZTerm sends a 'rz ...'. But
after the window showing the transfer stats, nothing happens at all. Complete
blank until timeout.

Any ideas what could go wrong ?  Thanks

BTW: we have here a SGI Irix system 5 and I connect from home with the Express
Modem and Zterm.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 10:16:36 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Healthier, More Manageable Hair)

I'm one of those poeple dependent on the mail
server([e-mail]). Due to a screwup in writing my commands
and the inclusion of a .sig, I lost access for a while, but got it back
yesterday. I sent for the list of all files, and got back a 72 page list of
full of this-

*NOTHELD *NOROOM    0 92/08/10
*NOTHELD *TOOOLD*   0 92/05/05
*NOTHELD *NOROOM    0 93/05/08

Does this mean that the mail server is no longer serving?
Is there a replacement?
Help! Help!
jamie

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